Music Discussion post

Be sure to read Lesson 8 before reading this discussion board.
Since each group will be participating in only one discussion board, every participant will have time to craft a thoughtful initial post of about 300 to 350 words in length. Think of the discussion board as an opportunity to write a mini-essay. We recommend that you prepare your post as a Word document, so that you can polish your writing before posting it. (You can then copy and paste your text into the discussion board.) These discussion boards are more about quality than quantity.
Discussion Board #3: Other Hitchcock/Herrmann Collaborations
Posting and Responding Group:  Group Suspense
While Group Suspense members will be the only ones posting and responding on this discussion board, everyone is expected to review the clips under consideration, and to read all the posts and responses on this discussion board.
For those wanting—or needing—a break from Psycho, here are some clips from two other film collaborations between Alfred Hitchcock and Bernard Herrmann: Vertigo and North by Northwest. The five clips from Vertigo provide a sketch of the plot, but only up to a point.  Remarkably, the story is not over at the end of the fifth clip. The two clips from North by Northwest provide only aspects of the setup, as well as an interesting contrast to the other two films.
Select one of the seven film clips below as the topic for your initial post: Identify a portion of the clip that you want to discuss, addressing in particular the various functions of the music within the clip. Keep in mind the relevance of the techniques of narrative film, and their interaction with the music, sound effects and dialogue.  (Use parenthetic times to clarify points in the clip.) 
IMPORTANT: In your post, as well as in your responses, use the appropriate terminology that you are acquiring from the lessons.  Think of this as an opportunity to utilize the O.A.R.S. model in examining the material.
Before making your own initial post, be sure to read any posts on the discussion board that your groupmates have already made. When possible, select a topic that has not yet been addressed, so that all seven topics are addressed.  With approximately twenty members on each group, there should be no more than three group members addressing the same topic.  Try, also, to examine a portion of the clip that has not yet been addressed.  In all cases, strive not to repeat those things that have already been stated in others’ posts; strive to offer fresh observations.  There is an abundance of material to allow this!
Use the clip as the header of your post (e.g., Vertigo Clip 3).
Here are the seven clips: 
Vertigo Clip 1 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1119
Vertigo Clip 2 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1120
Vertigo Clip 3 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1121
Vertigo Clip 4 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1122
Vertigo Clip 5 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1123
North by Northwest Clip 1 (https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1124
North by Northwest Clip 2 https://courses.aanda.psu.edu/music004/node/1125

Group Suspense members:  Make your initial post on your selected topic by 11:59 p.m. Thursday.   After that, identify at least two other topics of interest and contribute to those topics’ conversations by posting a reply on each topic thread.  These responses (“replies”) to groupmates’ initial posts are due by 11:59 p.m. Sunday. 
Regarding your initial post: As a matter of disciplined practice, begin your examination of the clip with the following:
—Select a start time and a stop time for your analysis.  It doesn’t have to be the complete length of the “topic” you have selected.  You may want to focus on only a portion of the selected clip, and that’s a great way to delve into the finer details.
—Always count the shots in your selected clip.  We are so familiar with the conventions of the techniques of narrative film that we are often not aware of the techniques themselves.  By counting the individual shots, you will see things you had not previously noticed.
—Identify any implied temporal ellipses, and observe which techniques of narrative film have contributed to conveying the passage of a period of time, from one shot to the next.
Begin your initial post with a header identifying the start and stop times you have selected (e.g., 0:00 to 1:36) and the number of shots contained in your selected clip (e.g., 12 shots).  Also, identify temporal ellipses, if any (e.g., no temporal ellipses).  Such an example of a header would look like this:
“Vertigo Clip 3;Selected clip: 0:00 to 1:36; 12 shots; no discernible temporal ellipses.”
Also, within your post, identify any music present in the selected clip as either diegetic or nondiegetic.
—Re diegetic music: identify the implied source of the music within the world of the film (either on-screen or off-screen); identify start and stop times (e.g., “diegetic music starts at 1:13 with the cut to the beach scene, stops at 2:42 when it can no longer be heard”).
—Re nondiegetic music: identify by time any cue-ins or cue-outs of the nondiegetic music (e.g., “nondiegetic music cues in at 0:29 and cues out at 1:12”).
Identifying specifically the presence of both diegetic music and/or nondiegetic music within the selected clip will facilitate addressing the purposes and functions of the music in relation to the techniques of narrative film.  Details–such as the cue-ins and cue-outs of nondiegetic music, or the presence of diegetic music in a scene–are well planned, and they acquire significance when considered in relationship to techniques of narrative film.
Regarding your responses: Offer substantive responses that address the thoughts and observations of your groupmate who has made the initial post.  (Avoid general “value” statements, such as “nice job,” which contribute nothing substantive to the conversation.)  All group members are invited to contribute additional replies on topics that interest you.  And, sooner is better.  That way, there is more opportunity for discussion.
***   To summarize:  Every group member is responsible for making at least three posts on the discussion board, as detailed above.  ***

NOTE: Canvas does not allow us to limit a student’s technical capability to post on any board that the student can see. This means that you must know whether the discussion board is assigned to your group, and whether you are supposed to be posting and responding on the board, or simply reading all the posts and responses of the assigned group, and viewing all the film clips on the discussion board.  If you mistakenly post on a discussion board that is not assigned to your group, you will not receive credit for that work. 
Group Suspense members:  Make your initial post on your selected topic by 11:59 p.m. Thursday.   After that, identify at least two other topics of interest and contribute to those topics’ conversations by posting a reply on each topic thread.  These responses (“replies”) to groupmates’ initial posts are due by 11:59 p.m. Sunday. 
Regarding your initial post: As a matter of disciplined practice, begin your examination of the clip with the following:
—Select a start time and a stop time for your analysis.  It doesn’t have to be the complete length of the “topic” you have selected.  You may want to focus on only a portion of the selected clip, and that’s a great way to delve into the finer details.
—Always count the shots in your selected clip.  We are so familiar with the conventions of the techniques of narrative film that we are often not aware of the techniques themselves.  By counting the individual shots, you will see things you had not previously noticed.
—Identify any implied temporal ellipses, and observe which techniques of narrative film have contributed to conveying the passage of a period of time, from one shot to the next.
Begin your initial post with a header identifying the start and stop times you have selected (e.g., 0:00 to 1:36) and the number of shots contained in your selected clip (e.g., 12 shots).  Also, identify temporal ellipses, if any (e.g., no temporal ellipses).  Such an example of a header would look like this:
“Vertigo Clip 3;Selected clip: 0:00 to 1:36; 12 shots; no discernible temporal ellipses.”
Also, within your post, identify any music present in the selected clip as either diegetic or nondiegetic.
—Re diegetic music: identify the implied source of the music within the world of the film (either on-screen or off-screen); identify start and stop times (e.g., “diegetic music starts at 1:13 with the cut to the beach scene, stops at 2:42 when it can no longer be heard”).
—Re nondiegetic music: identify by time any cue-ins or cue-outs of the nondiegetic music (e.g., “nondiegetic music cues in at 0:29 and cues out at 1:12”).
Identifying specifically the presence of both diegetic music and/or nondiegetic music within the selected clip will facilitate addressing the purposes and functions of the music in relation to the techniques of narrative film.  Details–such as the cue-ins and cue-outs of nondiegetic music, or the presence of diegetic music in a scene–are well planned, and they acquire significance when considered in relationship to techniques of narrative film.
Regarding your responses: Offer substantive responses that address the thoughts and observations of your groupmate who has made the initial post.  (Avoid general “value” statements, such as “nice job,” which contribute nothing substantive to the conversation.)  All group members are invited to contribute additional replies on topics that interest you.  And, sooner is better.  That way, there is more opportunity for discussion.
***   To summarize:  Every group member is responsible for making at least three posts on the discussion board, as detailed above.  ***

NOTE: Canvas does not allow us to limit a student’s technical capability to post on any board that the student can see. This means that you must know whether the discussion board is assigned to your group, and whether you are supposed to be posting and responding on the board, or simply reading all the posts and responses of the assigned group, and viewing all the film clips on the discussion board.  If you mistakenly post on a discussion board that is not assigned to your group, you will not receive credit for that work.

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